"Till I was 12. Lisa barely remembers, she wasn't even in kindergarten yet. Then it was us and good ol' dad."

He patted Barry's foot absently, getting lost in thought. Things were already terrible, but it got even worse without Grandpa as a reprieve. Then not so long after that was his first trip to juvie.

"Don't matter now. It was a long time ago. Now are you satisfied or do you want to know my birthday next?"